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Scrolling by those profane words

Posted on Jul 21st, 2008 by  Meenakshi : Connection Meenakshi
 I was composing a blog on my way to work today [yes, the blog begins to write itself this way] -- about how I just can't bear reading swear words just as I wince each time I hear them. All those "four-letter words ", @#%%^& and bleeps on TV. And then I came here, dove into friends' blogs, read Aley's profound profanity blog; began to comment, realized there was a comment and a blog coming; and am trying to write them both, side by side!

[This Gaia muse can sometimes be funnystrange!]

Confession --if I see too many swear words in blogs and posts, I scroll on by. Words are about communication; and when used in this way, they seem to show an impatience, that induces an answering impatience in me. It's not about whether a word is " bad" or "good"; but if it is used impatiently or angrily or carelessly, it is like a blow to me. I realize anew that all those who called me "too sensitive" in childhood were right. I feel it physically.

I was raised in a family where my mom would be completely shocked by us using words "silly" and "stupid"; whereas "mean" was enough to make her want to be swallowed up by the earth [it's a Sita thing]. My father didn't swear either. When I heard a gentle, warm uncle saying 'damn' casually, it was a complete shock to me! It's not that we were without anger or whatever...we'd take the time to use appropriate words to convey what we were really feeling. Wow! That can really produce a tongue-lashing!

I feel nothing can wound as much as a carefully chosen word. Just as nothing can salve a wound as thoroughly. I love those Shakespearean insults, for when you're really angry [can't remember any right now!!!] more than words that could just about convey anything to anyone. They can't get you into trouble, as you are using no"bad" words; but you get the point across. Or so I've been trying to teach any kid who'll listen!!!!!

After I studied psychology and hidden meanings and psychoanalytic analysis and so on; and later, with all that growing and expanding and  healing and whatever; I thought that this is something I'd grow out of; get desensitized to. But somehow I have not been able to shake this off. Words continue to be too ..sacred. And more importantly, what is being conveyed. Which is the crunch. How can I not read what a friend has written? How can I pass it by? But then, is reading a blog meant to be so difficult? Perhaps it is, if the goal is connection.

Come to think of it, swear words are like a Rorschach ink-blot. They could just about mean anything to anybody. Which is why the most they convey clearly, is feeling. In a way, perhaps they are even closer to ascension and enlightenment than these words that attach us to specific meanings; very clear, earth-bound meanings. To understand what you are really meaning in a blog peppered with these words, I am forced to leap into your consciousness.

If so, that is a quagmire I would need a lot of strength and lightness, to cross. Perhaps I'll even be able to listen to that Osho recording on Aley's blog without wincing! Yup, I've talked myself into it.

Almost.

It might change; specially as texts precious to me remind me to have a mind that is unattached to objects. One day, the words will flow by me; and when they do, there will be silence.

Those --- between fk and ct and st. Those spaces that can be filled with ....

Communion.

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What's that you say? I offered you chaai tea ? Are you sure? When did I do that? Sorry!!!

Shee-eeet......

[Catch me someone; I just might drown!]
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Samme : Prince of Rainbows<3
28 minutes later
Samme said

don't drown meenakshi, we need you to share your light
and i am saying that with utmost respect and admiration for you
~s

Naomi : watchman on the wall
30 minutes later
Naomi said

I agree sometimes all the cuss words can bog down what you are trying to say.  I also know they are powerful at communicating nothingness and feelings.  you can say something so much more potently when you don't cuss.  And cuss words aren't always communication it's more like expression without point, just required or not.  If any of this makes any sense and I think I got off on a tangant sorry.

maze : ordinary
about 1 hour later
maze said

this too shall pass…..cussing is just another way for thoughts to surface to fill the void until sense can be made.

Enlightened.thinker : Light-plerker
about 1 hour later
Enlightened.thinker said

I understand what you are saying here and applaud your posting it! My mother did not let me say hate, it had to be dislike intensely. Her curbing of my self expression lead me to want to explore new worlds of words, some beautiful and some not so nice. But family dynamics aside, it was also not proper for us to curse in childhood in the 50;s and70;s like it seems to be allowed today.

Thanks M. I appreciate you.
Aley

 Meenakshi : Connection
about 1 hour later
Meenakshi said

maze dear, now that you're here
I like what you wrote
And will fill in what you don't
~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~
Naomi, as we journey together, there is no tangent not worth exploring! Thanks for coming with that beautiful profile picture. Are you enjoying Gaia?

Samme, even as I drown, the light here will lfit me up. Thank you for your remarkable presence.

Samme : Prince of Rainbows<3
about 2 hours later
Samme said

Namaste

about 2 hours later
Dave said

Thanks for blogging on this M.  This is actually what I want to see more from you, where the shadows and discomfort reside.

I've done a fair amount of shadow work, and I've had people sit across from me and repeat things back to me that had power over me, that I didn't want to own.

Sometimes from childhood we embody our parent's belief, in your case great caution with words, in another family, no caution with words (maybe closer to mine).  I want to be free of those restraints, so I can be the highest expression of me in any setting.  And in some cases that may include a word that your uncomfortable with.

I also love you, maybe I have for lifetimes eh?  So for you, I may choose to express myself in a way that speaks to your heart.  For another it may be with spice.  The integrity of the speech is more important that the form.  (look at our non-swearing politicians)

So, is it the essence of the person we want to appreciate, or the form they take?  Is it both?  Truth to me appears mostly as paradox.

May words of beauty fill your ears….

about 4 hours later
Sherrilene said

Hi M. I'm a linguist so I appreciate the many diverse nuances of language and I do my best to speak to context rather than just the literal. Indeed, in my work, I have decided to modify my expression depending on the audience, so I sometimes use slang - which my old headmistress would probably frown upon - I definitely use dialect and even switch to very simplistic words in groups with English as a second language, and I rely on body language - audio and visual - to achieve it all.

I too wince at crudeness and the use of vulgar expressions. I, for example, couldn't watch certain black American comedy programmes because I couldn't stand to hear that term every 3 or four words! Ewwwhh! And I so love beauty in all its forms that the spoken or written word touches me most deeply when it is expressed with thought and consideration for the listener's pleasure.

But my passionate nature connects me with other very passionate persons; people driven like me for a cause. And when we get to communicating, there's no time for pussyfooting - I hope that's still appropriate! haha We feel no respect lost by slipping an expletive in for some kind of emphasis… and then simply moving on thereafter. In such a setting, we would consider a cuss word nothing but a functional object, and a small thing relative to what we are attempting to accomplish.

Sensitivity requires however, I agree, respect for what time and place we are operating in and so I do my best to keep a lid on it where required. It isn't really that difficult to do in my case.

Thanks for receiving me! Best to you, sherri

~KES : Communicator
about 6 hours later
~KES said

Osho recording on Aley's blog serves an interesting purpose.  He is funny but the key is that he really does wake humankind up  and has found a level of reality of where to begin and helps us to LOOK.  
I agree that using that language is needed to communicate and attract attention of many.  He achieved his dream.  I laughed because it was funny while he made it safe to wake up to any path for producing change.  

In this current society, all manner of fascinating distractions have been manufactured to lead one astray.  They are offered up in many guises.  One need only open a newspaper or turn on a TV.  We are continuously bombarded with altered importance or fear & apathetic chemical solutions. 
Take a good hard look and see these distractions for what they are: DISTRACTIONS from your paths that would set you free.

There are countless barriers to Freedom, seemingly insurmountable barriers and problems.  Realize, too, what these are:  all part of the trap that would enslave a being.

Go ahead and reach your full spiritual potentials, where you will find the Truth for yourself.  But there is even more at stake.  The society in which we live is constructed to crush beings.  Witness the continuous turmoil within the societies of Earth.

The dramatization of the collective mind gains ground each moment.  Only the spiritual being can dispel the madness and knows truly Why.  And it is spiritual beings as a group, growing constantly in number, that will change the civilization itself.  

Choose and practice a spiritual path as that is the road out.  Gaia Community here is a beacon of sanity in an embattled world.  It is a spiritual sight that sets a stellar example of moving through the energies that trap spirituality. Step on a spiritual path and allow yourself through words that enlighen your universe to move up and beyond.  

Thanks for posting some hot topics.  I enjoyed reading everyone's comments and do use the word at times even though its more of a challenge to come up wit a better word in the moment.  We are a work in progress…

about 10 hours later
cHAngeL said

Well I am definitely a work in progress…

I have used a profanic word expression now and then…cough…they are very expressive :)

I am no angel? :)


I said Jesus! ….as an exclamation about 6 months ago…. and my 75 yr old mother said …

“Janie! I have never heard you talk like that!” (at 47 years old…)

I snickered to myself and thought to myself…”wow…saying the name of a God loving human is such a sin.” :)

I adore my mom.

We are all brought up to tame our expressions for various reasons. Some to the point of being repressive and some for socially appropriate reasons. Words are energy, and Meenakshi you are sensitive to it as many of us are.

I don't really care to read profanity myself, but a word here and there like you use in your blog feels ok to me. I think what bothers me more is when people discuss issues that walk the line of sexual inappropriateness, since children are allowed to access this site.
Children mimic adults. It is part of their learning…we must pay attention to what we say.
It's a fine line between repression and responsibility…Even though I prefer to let it ALL out….I feel responsibility is probably the correct way to use our words in public.

Fun blog…been wanting to tell about my 47 yr old scold :)

Love,

Janie

 Meenakshi : Connection
about 13 hours later
Meenakshi said

Dave,
Thanks for blogging on this M.  “This is actually what I want to see more from you, where the shadows and discomfort reside.”
Ah, the blocks, dear friend. Or perhaps those tiny shadows; as the deep ones have vaporized. Our gaze vaporizes them. Thank you for this interest!!!!

“Sometimes from childhood we embody our parent's belief, in your case great caution with words, in another family, no caution with words (maybe closer to mine).  I want to be free of those restraints, so I can be the highest expression of me in any setting.  And in some cases that may include a word that your uncomfortable with.”

I realized when responding at Aley's blog to Searching's questions, that it wasn't just my family; but people around me; the 'culture' if you will, in which “bad words” were not spoken. As I wrote there, it's more like these words were at first unfamiliar, just like a foreign language; and when I finally heard them, it was from sources that I did not feel drawn to. Now, on Gaia, when I hear them from people I value, I find that it is I who needs to expand, to change perspective, to one in which I can accept; even if I have other words to express myself.

“So, is it the essence of the person we want to appreciate, or the form they take?  Is it both? ”
Yup; I'm at the space where I'd say it's both; in that the form is the essence–or a doorway into it, or perhaps even that veil at the portal; and I have to find another way of looking at words I considered “bad”.

“May words of beauty fill your ears….”

I hear the song on Gaia daily…and just as Bach's discordant tones turned into wonderful fugues that I began to understand; these words you use are going to meld into the thoughts and essence of who we are, and sing for me.

In my 51st year, I gave myself the gift of a light heart. It comes to roost in my 53rd year, as a gift of a light ear.

Thank you for helping me to see this, Dave.



I'll be back, ~KES, Bluewater..

otter : Spiritual Off-Roader
about 15 hours later
otter said

Swear words can be used like perfume.  A little dab here and there, and it creates interest … . spices things up in an emphatic way.  Being in the “presence” of someone whose every second word is f*** is a lot like getting on an elevator with someone who has doused themselves with “Axe” or Brittany Spears' “Curious.”  Subtly goes out the non-existent window, and you don't notice anything else about them.  Bam!  Right between the eyes. 

Excess profanity and too much cheap perfume have another thing in common.  They are a convenient “short-cuts.”  Need a shower, but don't have the time or inclination?  Out comes the cheap perfume.  Need to express your anger (or want attention or want to build a tough persona), but don't want to bother actually working at or through those things? Out come the swear-words. 

To borrow from the old ad for Brylcreem , , , “A little dab'll do ya.”  Good post, Meenakshi.  I think a lot of people are tired of the excess, but shrug it off as yet another sign that “Things are going to  'bleep' “   :-)”

 Meenakshi : Connection
about 21 hours later
Meenakshi said

Sherri, I admire your fluidity with language and context. I am a little more stick-in-the-mud on this plane! Manage to get by because people expect a foreigner to be different, I guess!! I'm enjoying meeting Gaians whom I don't usually meet in my off-line life. Except at work; my friends from different countries sort of speak like me: real words, if you know what i mean. Come to think of it, for most of us, English is a second language. Hmmm… that may have something to do with it?!

Kathy, isn't it strange that though “Gaia Community here is a beacon of sanity in an embattled world.”, for me it became the one place that I am face to face with “language” among friends? Cosmic joke. I'm going with the words I read this week: 'to be liberated, we need a state of the mind that has withdrawn from revelling in the world of objects'” . I take that to mean, that I don't need to be affected by the words themselves, but by what the interaction between me and the other is achieving.

Janie, thanks for that! You made me laugh…perhaps our ears…or eyes need to be washed out sometimes ;)

Otter - v.interesting perspective. I have a memory of the brylcreem ad from my childhood too!

about 24 hours later
Sherrilene said

lol I am just bold, don't forget I'm by definition a foreigner but I totally see myself as a plain old human and I, in truth, really enjoy the connections that I get from reaching out past my own expectations, which still exist. That fun supercedes the rest in my scheme. And while doing that, I can literally feel myself growing… that I also like quite a lot :D

I like that you are open to consider alternatives. That goes a long way towards your flow. You're doing great… for an ol' stick in the mud hahha

I should add that some of the most robust and energising conversations I have are with old people that have by that age decided to shake the images of propriety and get to basics. It's usually hilarious and explicit, but no need for vulgarity. It is possible to talk the serious stuff without having to go there. Indeed, on recollection, my grandmother's approach may have rubbed off on me as well of: 'Say what ya gotta say now, what are ya waiting for?' : )

Best, sherri

Enlightened.thinker : Light-plerker
1 day later
Enlightened.thinker said

Great blog and catharsis here Meenakshi…glad you are able to cathart and am sending you all love,
Aley

1 day later
cHAngeL said

“A little dab'll do ya.”

Laughing at otter…so cute :)

 Meenakshi : Connection
1 day later
Meenakshi said

Aley, thank you for that cute heart! I can feel light shining on all that needs to be cleared… as we cathart together [love that word as a verb!] to seeing that those sweet little words that help people to release their anger/annoyance/impatience/hurt are not to be blamed —it is the a/a/i/h that  needs to be heard with ears of light!!!!

[I had a blog recently on the paradox of calling cleaners dirty; and polluters clean]

Spiritual Liberation : adventurer
3 days later
Spiritual Liberation said

M, you are so sweet! I know I am a guilty party in using profanity in my blog every now and then, or even the hint of it. I always think twice about it, but sometimes it captures the heart of how I feel or what I wish to express. My relationship with language is ever evolving. It is the energy behind the words that makes me want to crawl in a hole or allows them to pass by unnoticed.

I have a dear friend who is from NYC, and he sprinkles the f-word in his speech like salt on french fries, but I hardly ever notice because it's just a filler word. There is no energy behind it that feels icky or unsafe.

And on the other hand, a non-cuss word can make me want to crawl out of my skin and hide in the ethers because it does have malice attached to it. The word 'stupid' used to be one of those for me because it was used abusively in my childhood.

It's a funny subject…I fell in love with my spiritual teacher the first time I heard him utter a cuss word. It made him real and approachable and not so far beyond the dealings of this planet that he would not understand where I was and be able to meet me there.

And yet I agree with you wholely that there is nothing more gracious and moving as words carefully explored and fit just-so.

What a great topic to explore! Thank you!
Love,
Shani

 Meenakshi : Connection
3 days later
Meenakshi said

Shani, One thing I love about sharing in communities; is that if you get a thought; but don't take the time and care to set it down…someone else will say it. That is what I feel about the words you've just written. [and why I can see oneness in our daily lives]. When I write something, the opposite thought also goes by…for some reason, I give energy to one or the other.

As you've described, it is the energy behind the word and not the word itself, that makes it uncomfortable for me to hear.

“Filler word” is a new concept…I like those spaces between words, feeling they convey that immensity that we are. I like to think that as we write, it is not those black lines but the white spaces that show who or what we are.

Someone took time to give me space to read between their lines; to breathe between their words, to look for my own meanings in that space. Which is why I like it when people put spaces between their words. Those paragraph breaks!

or…someone filled it up with something more, seemingly without meaning;forcing me to find one of my own.

I guess that feels crowded. But the way you took it is so endearing; that i am going to explore it further…

Thank you!

Spiritual Liberation : adventurer
4 days later
Spiritual Liberation said

This-

Someone took time to give me space to read between their lines; to breathe between their words, to look for my own meanings in that space.


-took my breath away.

Nishtha : Imaginative Mellifluous Philosopher
28 days later
Nishtha said

(((((((meenakshi)))))))

Thank you for expressing yourself (and a part of me as well) and providing this forum for such a great conversation. I was raised in a household much like you, M, and that sense of “decency” has remained with me throughout my life, for good and/or ill…

Apparently, the Puritanical roots of American Society blend well with my Indian roots of (what exactly?) as evidenced by the ratings code of the Motion Picture Association of America and the censorship of television…. I used to love watching The Actor's Studio and listening to the Q and A at the end of the interview and one question asked is, “What is your favorite curse word?” They always bleep that one out and I find myself oddly disappointed at not getting to hear someone's favorite curseword as they utter it… Here's one they didn't bleep out (apparently, it's okay to use a graphic curse when it's not uttered in English).

Thanks for this shared space to discuss the finer points of conversation, freedom of expression and sensitivity to other's senses of decency. It's a difficult field to get right, isn't it?
N

 Meenakshi : Connection
about 1 month later
Meenakshi said

Shani [spiritual liberation]–thank you for that …with feeling!

And Nishtha, wow, I am revisiting this blog that stayed up as my last one for 28 days as I revisited the motherland. It's still the same in that no one I know used swear words. But there are worse things, and I have found that now I am using the word id—t very freely now, for myself or anyone else who seems to be —well—-idiotic. 

Still can't use words that mean one thing in place of words that mean another, though. That's my next pet peeve. Why ruin the original meaning of the word? Those euphemisms that make two words seem “bad”–the original and the new one. But coming to think of it, once we gave up the word gay to a behavior that needed to be accepted by society, we have gaily found other words to stand for the same thing. And now perhaps we can enjoy kittens and cats a little more than we did the p word that has been taken away from cat lovers!

Perhaps even worse than all these, is the indifference of “I don't care”. Just some stray thoughts as I struggle to overcome jet lag!!!!

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